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  Beckles and Butt on Fox News
August 10, 2013

For better or worse, Jovanka Beckles and I appeared on Fox News this morning to discuss “Ban the Box.” We got our approximately five minutes of fame in front of an audience of 2 million viewers then went home to catch upon sleep.

I don’t know anyone who watches Fox [not] News, but you can see the video at http://video.foxnews.com/v/2597558038001/should-employers-know-about-an-applicants-criminal-past/?playlist_id=921261890001.

I had to get up at 3:30 am to drive to the studio on San Francisco to fit with the east coast broadcast time. I was really sleepy.